{"id":2103,"date":"2016-09-17T12:00:23","date_gmt":"2016-09-17T03:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hangyosil.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=2103"},"modified":"2022-02-20T12:11:29","modified_gmt":"2022-02-20T03:11:29","slug":"podcast182","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/hangyosil.com\/?podcast=podcast182","title":{"rendered":"#182 \u97d3\u56fd\u8a9e\u8868\u73fe 3 &#8211; \u65e5\u672c\u8a9e\u306f\u540d\u8a5e\u4e2d\u5fc3\u3001\u97d3\u56fd\u8a9e\u306f\u52d5\u8a5e\u4e2d\u5fc3"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(2016\/9\/17 \u914d\u4fe1)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\ud55c\uad6d\uc5b4<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ud45c\ud604<\/strong><strong>\u2462<\/strong><br><br>\uc548\ub155\ud558\uc138\uc694.<br>\ub3c4\ucfc4 \ub2e4\ub9c8\uc2dc\uc5d0 \uc788\ub294 \ud55c\uad6d\uc5b4 \uad50\uc2e4 \ud55c\uad50\uc2e4\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<br><br>\u2018\u4eca\u65e5\u306f\u304a\u3084\u3059\u307f\u3067\u3059\u2019\ub97c 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