{"id":2208,"date":"2015-07-10T12:00:23","date_gmt":"2015-07-10T03:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hangyosil.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=2208"},"modified":"2022-03-09T23:01:03","modified_gmt":"2022-03-09T14:01:03","slug":"podcast154","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/hangyosil.com\/?podcast=podcast154","title":{"rendered":"#154 \u97d3\u56fd\u5730\u65b9\u306e\u7d39\u4ecb &#8211; \u6e08\u5dde\u9053 2"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(2015\/7\/10 \u914d\u4fe1)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\ud55c\uad6d<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc9c0\ubc29\uc18c\uac1c<\/strong><strong>\uff0d<\/strong><strong>\uc81c\uc8fc\ub3c4<\/strong><strong>\u2461<\/strong><br><br>\uc548\ub155\ud558\uc138\uc694.<br>\ub3c4\ucfc4 \ub2e4\ub9c8\uc2dc\uc5d0 \uc788\ub294 \ud55c\uad6d\uc5b4 \uad50\uc2e4 \ud55c\uad50\uc2e4\uc774\uc5d0\uc694.<br><br>\uc9c0\ub09c\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc774\uc5b4 \uc624\ub298\ub3c4 \uc81c\uc8fc\ub3c4 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<\/strong><strong>\ubc14\ub2e4\ub85c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub458\ub7ec\uc2f8\uc778<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc12c\uc774\ub77c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uba39\uac70\ub9ac\ub3c4<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u56db\u9762\u304c\u6d77\u3067\u56f2\u307e\u308c\u3066\u3044\u308b\u5cf6\u306a\u306e\u3067\u98df\u3079\u7269\u3082\u3002\u300c\uba39\uac70\ub9ac\u300d\uff1d\u300c\u98df\u3079\u7269\u300d\u3002\u300c\u540d\u8a5e\uff0b(\uc774)\uc5b4\uc11c\/(\uc774)\ub77c\uc11c)\u300d,\u300c\u7528\u8a00\uff0b-\uc544\/\uc5b4\uc11c\u300d=\u300c\uff5e\u306e\u3067\u300d<br><strong>3. <\/strong><strong>\ud574\ucd08\uc778<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ubab8\uacfc<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u6d77\u85fb\u3067\u3042\u308b\u304e\u3070\u3055(\u30a2\u30ab\u30e2\u30af\uff09\u3068<br><strong>4. <\/strong><strong>\uc790\ub9ac\ub3d4\uc73c\ub85c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub9cc\ub4e0<\/strong><strong> 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