{"id":2261,"date":"2014-07-19T12:00:53","date_gmt":"2014-07-19T03:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hangyosil.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=2261"},"modified":"2022-03-13T16:46:27","modified_gmt":"2022-03-13T07:46:27","slug":"podcast130","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/hangyosil.com\/?podcast=podcast130","title":{"rendered":"#130 \u304a\u304b\u3057\u30ea\u30e5\u30c3\u30af\u30b5\u30c3\u30af"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(2014\/7\/19 \u914d\u4fe1)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\uacfc\uc790\uac00\ubc29<\/strong><strong>(<\/strong><strong>\uacfc\ubc29<\/strong><strong>)<\/strong><br><br>\uc548\ub155\ud558\uc138\uc694.<br>\ub3c4\ucfc4 \ub2e4\ub9c8\uc2dc\uc5d0 \uc788\ub294 \ud55c\uad6d\uc5b4 \uad50\uc2e4 \ud55c\uad50\uc2e4\uc774\uc5d0\uc694.<br><br>\ud55c\uad6d\uc5d0\uc11c \uc5ec\uace0\uc0dd\ub4e4 \uc0ac\uc774\uc5d0\uc11c \uc720\ud589\ud558\uace0 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\ubc30\uac00 \uace0\ud30c\uc9c4\ub2e4\ub294 \ub9d0\uc744 \ub9ce\uc774 \ub4e3\ub294\ub370\uc694, \uadf8\ub798\uc11c <strong>\uacf5\ubd80\ud560<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub54c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uba39\uc73c\ub77c\uace0<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub2e8<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uacfc\uc790\ub97c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc8fc\ub294<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uac83<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uac19\uc544\uc694<\/strong>.<br><br>\uacfc\uc790\ub85c\ub9cc <strong>\uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uac00\ubc29\uc744<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub9cc\ub4e4\uae4c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uad81\uae08\ud574\ud558\uc2dc\ub294<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ubd84\ub4e4\uc744<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc704\ud574<\/strong> \uac04\ub2e8\ud788 \ub9cc\ub4dc\ub294 \ubc95\uc744 \uc18c\uac1c\ud558\uba74\uc694, \uba3c\uc800 \uc77c\ubcf8\uc758\u2019pocky\u2019\uc640 \uac19\uc740\u2019<strong>\ubeec\ubeec\ub85c<\/strong>\u2019\ub97c \uc0ac\uc6a9\ud574 \uac00\ubc29\uc758 \ud504\ub808\uc784\uc744 \ub9cc\ub4e4\uc5b4\uc694. \u2018\ubeec\ubeec\ub85c\u2019\uac19\uc774 \uc0c1\uc790\ub85c \uacfc\uc790 \ud3ec\uc7a5\uc774 \ub418\uc5b4 \uc788\uc73c\uba74 \ud504\ub808\uc784\uc744 \ub9cc\ub4e4\uae30\uc5d0 \uc544\uc8fc \uc88b\uc544\uc694. \uac00\ubc29\uc758 \ub450\uaed1\ub3c4 \ub9cc\ub4dc\ub294\ub370\uc694, \ub9cc\ub4e4 \ub54c\ub294 \uce74\ub4dc\uace0\ub9ac\ub85c \uc5f0\uacb0\uc2dc\ud0a4\uba74 <strong>\uc5f4\uace0<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub2eb\uae30\uc5d0<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ud3b8\ud574\uc694<\/strong>. \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \ub098\uc11c <strong>\uc870\uadf8\ub9cc<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ubd09\uc9c0\uc5d0<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub4e4\uc5b4<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc788\ub294<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uacfc\uc790\ub97c<\/strong><strong> 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<\/strong><strong>\uce74\ub4dc\uace0\ub9ac\ub85c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc11c\ub85c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc5f0\uacb0\uc2dc\ucf1c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uac00\ubc29\ucc98\ub7fc<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u30c6\u30fc\u30d7\u3084\u30ab\u30fc\u30c9\u306e\u30ea\u30f3\u30b0\uff08\u2019O\u2019ring\uff09\u3067\u7e4b\u3052\u3001\u9784\u306e\u3088\u3046\u306b<br><strong>4. <\/strong><strong>\ubc30\ub0ad\ubaa8\uc591\uc73c\ub85c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub4f1\uc5d0<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc9c8<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc218<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc788\ub3c4\ub85d<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub418\uc5b4<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc788\uad6c\uc694<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u30ea\u30e5\u30af\u30b5\u30c3\u30af\u306e\u5f62\u3067\u80cc\u4e2d\u306b\u8ca0\u3046\u3053\u3068\u304c\u3067\u304d\u308b\u3088\u3046\u306b\u306a\u3063\u3066\u3044\u307e\u3059\u3088\u3002 \u300c\ub4f1\uc5d0 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<\/strong><strong>\uc788\uc5b4\uc694<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u30e1\u30c3\u30bb\u30fc\u30b8\u304c\u542b\u307e\u308c\u3066(\u5165\u3063\u3066)\u3044\u307e\u3059\u3002\u300c\uba54\uc9c0\uc9c0\uac00 \ub2f4\uaca8(\uc838) \uc788\ub2e4 (\u30e1\u30c3\u30bb\u30fc\u30b8\u304c\u5165\u3063\u3066\u3044\u308b\u300d\u3001\u300c\uba54\uc2dc\uc9c0\ub97c \ub2f4\ub2e4 (\u30e1\u30c3\u30bb\u30fc\u30b8\u3092\u5165\u308c\u308b)\u300d<br><strong>7. <\/strong><strong>\ud558\uae34<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u305d\u3046\u3044\u3048\u3070\u3002\u300c\ud558\uae30\ub294 \u300d\u306f\u306e\u7e2e\u7d04\u5f62<br><strong>8. <\/strong><strong>\uacf5\ubd80\ud560<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub54c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uba39\uc73c\ub77c\uace0<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub2e8<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uacfc\uc790\ub97c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc8fc\ub294<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uac83<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uac19\uc544\uc694<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u52c9\u5f37\u306e\u6642\u98df\u3079\u3066\u3063\u3066(\u8a00\u3046\u3088\u3046\u306b)\u7518\u3044\u304a\u83d3\u5b50\u3092\u3042\u3052\u3066\u3044\u308b\u307f\u305f\u3044\u3067\u3059\u3002\u300c\uff5e(\uc73c)\ub77c\uace0 \u300d\u306f\u3053\u3053\u3067\u306f\u52c9\u5f37\u306e\u305f\u3081\u306b\u7518\u3044\u304a\u83d3\u5b50\u3092\u3042\u3052\u308b\u3068\u3044\u3046\u610f\u56f3\u3084\u76ee\u7684\u3092\u8868\u3059\u3002<br>\u300c\uff5e(\uc73c)\ub77c\uace0 \u300d\u306e\u524d\u306f\u76ee\u7684\u3001\u5f8c\u308d\u306b\u306f\u305d\u306e\u76ee\u7684\u306e\u305f\u3081\u306b\u884c\u308f\u308c\u308b\u884c\u52d5\u304c\u6765\u308b<br><strong>9. <\/strong><strong>\uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uac00\ubc29\uc744<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub9cc\ub4e4\uae4c<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uad81\uae08\ud574\ud558\uc2dc\ub294<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ubd84\ub4e4\uc744<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc704\ud574<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u3069\u3046\u3084\u3063\u3066\u9784\u3092\u4f5c\u308b\u306e\u304b\u77e5\u308a\u305f\u3044\u65b9\u306e\u305f\u3081\u306b\u3002\u300c\uad81\uae08\ud574\ud558\ub2e4 \u300d\u306f\u300c\u77e5\u308a\u305f\u304c\u308b\u300d\u3001\u300c\u4e0d\u601d\u8b70\u306b\u601d\u3046\u300d\u3001\u300c\u6c17\u306b\u306a\u308b\u300d<br><strong>10. \u2018<\/strong><strong>\ubeec\ubeec\ub85c<\/strong><strong>\u2019:<\/strong> \u65e5\u672c\u306e\u300c\u30dd\u30c3\u30ad\u30fc\u300d\u306e\u3088\u3046\u306a\u304a\u83d3\u5b50\u3002\u305d\u306e\u5f62\u304c\u4f3c\u3066\u3044\u308b\u3053\u3068\u304b\u3089\u300c11\u670811\u65e5(1111)\u300d\u3092\u300c\ubeec\ubeec\ub85c\uc758 \ub0a0 \u300d\u3068\u3082\u547c\u3076<br><strong>11. <\/strong><strong>\uc5f4\uace0<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ub2eb\uae30\uc5d0<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\ud3b8\ud574\uc694<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> \u958b\u3051\u9589\u3081\u306b\u4fbf\u5229\u3067\u3059\u3002 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