{"id":2295,"date":"2013-12-08T12:00:56","date_gmt":"2013-12-08T03:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hangyosil.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=2295"},"modified":"2022-03-18T21:31:56","modified_gmt":"2022-03-18T12:31:56","slug":"podcast115","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/hangyosil.com\/?podcast=podcast115","title":{"rendered":"#115 \u5b9a\u5e74\u9000\u8077\u3068\u5e74\u91d1 2"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(2013\/12\/8 \u914d\u4fe1)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\uc815\ub144\ud1f4\uc9c1\uacfc<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>\uc5f0\uae08<\/strong><strong> #2<\/strong><br><br>\uc548\ub155\ud558\uc138\uc694.<br>\ub3c4\ucfc4 \ub2e4\ub9c8\uc2dc\uc5d0 \uc788\ub294 \ud55c\uad6d\uc5b4 \uad50\uc2e4 \ud55c\uad50\uc2e4\uc774\uc5d0\uc694.<br>\uc9c0\ub09c \ud68c\uc5d0\ub294 \uc815\ub144\ud1f4\uc9c1 \ub098\uc774\ub97c \uc911\uc2ec\uc73c\ub85c \uc598\uae30\ud588\ub294\ub370\uc694, \uc624\ub298\uc740 \uc815\ub144\ud1f4\uc9c1 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